tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post1399071932096658873..comments2024-02-05T05:15:04.759-08:00Comments on Wandering Scientist: It Is Not about the Money. Or the Dress.Cloudhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09317847285050447789noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-87636468179091786752015-03-16T00:34:47.825-07:002015-03-16T00:34:47.825-07:00This is really neither here nor there about anythi...This is really neither here nor there about anything, and I'm commenting so late that maybe no one will ever see this, but... Js are only more detail-oriented for certain values of the word "detail."<br /><br />In reality, Ps tend to see a ton more detail than Js. So much detail! And get overwhelmed by it, and not want to make a decision or come down on an opinion that disregards any important (and compared to how it looks to a J, they're all important!) detail (to greater or lesser degrees, depending on how well adjusted the P is, how much pressure is on this decision, how much time the P has had to get familiar with the subject matter...). Js are the ones who talk in black and white.Marcyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03334283552080882052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-82386323754878480502015-03-16T00:27:36.507-07:002015-03-16T00:27:36.507-07:00According to cognition step theory as I understand...According to cognition step theory as I understand it (especially as I've read about it on alittlebitofpersonality.com), that makes a lot of sense for a P in particular -- the cognition step that makes action plans is third or last out of four in the cognition process, for Ps. Speaking *very* generally that makes Ps worse at planning, because not everything goes through one's entire cognition process, and so you do your first steps more often, and are better at them. And enjoy them more than the steps at the end. Again, speaking very generally. BUT. Important matters will definitely get the full weight of the full process, maybe even cycled through a few times. People also tend to be most sensitive and defensive of their last steps. At the very least, by the time a P has really planned out something important? They're invested in it. And want it to go according to plan.Marcyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03334283552080882052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-42353610232940853702015-03-13T18:30:43.086-07:002015-03-13T18:30:43.086-07:00Uncertainty and ambiguity IS really hard. Really ...Uncertainty and ambiguity IS really hard. Really really hard. I've been through some fairly hard things in my life, but nothing has been as hard as times with lots of uncertainty. It's extremely emotionally draining, physically draining, and leaves me prone to flares of temper over little things like....$20 on a dress, (Especially because I'm already annoyed by all the games retailers play - if you buy it today, it's $20, next Tuesday it's $40, or vice versa). I've unfortunately gotten lots and lots of practice with uncertainty in the last several years...and, seriously, it's been harder for than both parents having cancer, and a few other not-so-fun things. One thing that helps me is making small goals: the big picture stuff I have little control over, but, I can make small goals for things that can be accomplished in a 2-3 month period - fitness goals, reading goals, planning time to see friends. It also helps me just to acknowledge that living with uncertainty is a constant stress, and that is is not a luxury to take time for massage, friends, good nourishing food. I hope when you get your taxes back you can get things to fall in place and start planning.Elodienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-59739970305071474972015-03-13T07:10:12.934-07:002015-03-13T07:10:12.934-07:00Hoo boy!! Uncertainty is bad enough, but that sort...Hoo boy!! Uncertainty is bad enough, but that sort of domino effect uncertainty definitely drives me up the wall. And kids summer plans are always a trigger in that sense; because they have to be planned way in advance to be able to get in, usually before anything else in life is figured out. Glad you got the dress; The wedding sounds like fun. And lots off best wishes for everything else working out. You have more well-wishers than you know. and we are rooting for you!! :-)<br />Banyan city girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02186127283590050875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-69160994955772804472015-03-12T17:33:05.695-07:002015-03-12T17:33:05.695-07:00Uncertainty can be maddening! I think you're d...Uncertainty can be maddening! I think you're doing very well under the circumstances, and I'm sure everything will turn out well. I had to comment on your blog title though... Every time I've read it, the song Price Tag by Jessie J goes through my head. You know, "It's not about the money, money, money... Just want to make the world dance, forget about the price tag." So, thank you!Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03276995787173932700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-16815040862965443642015-03-12T08:21:27.607-07:002015-03-12T08:21:27.607-07:00Thanks for the support, everyone!
Both Mr. Snark...Thanks for the support, everyone! <br /><br />Both Mr. Snarky and I are planners. Some of our friends laugh at the amount of organization in our lives... but it makes us happy. Where we differ is in our risk tolerance. I have very low tolerance for physical risks (you'll never find me skydiving, for instance) but a higher tolerance for some financial risks. He is the exact opposite. Since our current decisions are all about financial risks, this makes things interesting.<br /><br />@Marcia- I'll try to get one of my trademark headless photos in the dress and post it!Cloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09317847285050447789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-66542079301911627582015-03-12T07:18:42.006-07:002015-03-12T07:18:42.006-07:00I hate uncertainty, too =(
(Hope that you feel mo...I hate uncertainty, too =(<br /><br />(Hope that you feel more in control, soon!)bean-writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574157518553636032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-79145356466412219092015-03-12T07:18:23.156-07:002015-03-12T07:18:23.156-07:00I hate uncertainty, too =(
(Hope that you feel mo...I hate uncertainty, too =(<br /><br />(Hope that you feel more in control, soon!)bean-writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574157518553636032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-89077359296964812342015-03-12T03:31:42.039-07:002015-03-12T03:31:42.039-07:00Also, to be fair to my P, some (but not all) of hi...Also, to be fair to my P, some (but not all) of his contracts depend on the whim of Health Department HR. I don't think he's started a job yet with a contract actually fully in place. Also: apparently it is not necessary to actually pay people for a couple of months if you're health drpt HR. Hmph. Zenmoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-68932272097784606252015-03-12T03:27:08.352-07:002015-03-12T03:27:08.352-07:00We may have had that "discussion" - see ...We may have had that "discussion" - see also: "if you want to do fun stuff on the weekend, then it needs to be planned in advance. I refuse to attempt unplanned activities with an infant & 5 year old. It is too stressful"Zenmoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-40822049877211448112015-03-11T17:02:35.939-07:002015-03-11T17:02:35.939-07:00When I do Myers Briggs I'm always on the P/J b...When I do Myers Briggs I'm always on the P/J boundary because, like badmomgoodmom, I'm all for serendipity in my free/fun time but I like things going according to plan with important things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-77518632868141011082015-03-11T13:40:27.230-07:002015-03-11T13:40:27.230-07:00Money definitely buys more choices! We're mull...Money definitely buys more choices! We're mulling over a few financial-related decisions and it's hard when you are on a tight budget.middle_classhttps://middleclassrevolution.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-77365701009877565242015-03-11T12:45:44.678-07:002015-03-11T12:45:44.678-07:00I'm a J too (ESTJ) and I HATE UNCERTAINTY! I s...I'm a J too (ESTJ) and I HATE UNCERTAINTY! I seriously can't stand it. I prefer to have "bad news" and then make a plan to deal with it, than the not knowing.<br /><br />Also, that dress is very, very pretty - are you going to model and get Mr Snarky to take a pic for the blog? :)Marcia (123 blog)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15581613927187600748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-18834829346178535782015-03-11T12:37:49.984-07:002015-03-11T12:37:49.984-07:00I'm all for serendipity in small things like, ...I'm all for serendipity in small things like, "which movie will we see tonight?" or "what's for dinner?"<br /><br />But, I can't stand uncertainty about major life issues and money.<br /><br />The hardest adjustment I had to make when I learned that I had a serious chronic disease is the uncertainty it puts into my plans. I never know if I will be well enough to do something I planned. What I hate is people who put extra stress on my life and health, which<br />prevent me from doing the things that matter to me.badmomgoodmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11569728075698885020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-90987150572402579692015-03-11T12:18:48.090-07:002015-03-11T12:18:48.090-07:00oh yes. nothing, NOTHING puts me over the edge lik...oh yes. nothing, NOTHING puts me over the edge like uncertainty. I felt my chest tightening just reading your list of uncertainties. I am also stressing about how much we owe in taxes, and the stress is keeping me from insisting we sit down and DO THEM. its a self-inflicted vicious cycle. Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00006807775816627217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-1978613713495686882015-03-11T11:47:47.745-07:002015-03-11T11:47:47.745-07:00This is totally my "J" talking, but some...This is totally my "J" talking, but sometimes I think "Ps" freeload on the planning and detail-oriented nature of those of us who like to nail things down. We are, after all, better at it. But if the "P" in your life had to make his own childcare arrangements based on his hours he'd probably learn about the upside of planning.... Laura Vanderkamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06385504652419979583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-35688966272143366622015-03-11T06:06:54.303-07:002015-03-11T06:06:54.303-07:00I don't like uncertainty either.I don't like uncertainty either. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-13289444358552679312015-03-11T02:43:58.305-07:002015-03-11T02:43:58.305-07:00When, 12 years ago, I became the breadwinner for o...When, 12 years ago, I became the breadwinner for our family (my husband took redundancy and decided to be a SAHD for a while - he still is), I was surprised at how stressful I found it. I had always expected to support myself. I hadn't expected to support 2 (then 3) people other than myself. <br /><br />That led me to take only three months maternity leave my second pregnancy (in Australia we were entitled to up to 12 months unpaid at the time, now some of it is paid too). I still regret that, more for my own sake, rather than the kids' sake. So it wasn't a quick blowout of stress, more a build up, but I still find it fascinating how tough it was, and it gave me more sympathy than I had previously for those new dads who insist on working harder than ever when their babies are born.<br /><br />But over the edge... usually lack of sleep is the actual cause. It could be pretty much any trigger once I haven't had enough sleep.Jenniferhttp://www.actuarialeye.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-81614872240105048572015-03-10T22:50:13.093-07:002015-03-10T22:50:13.093-07:00Oh I am awful with uncertainty. I'm ENTJ (bord...Oh I am awful with uncertainty. I'm ENTJ (borderline INTJ) - my job & basic personality are all about getting & evaluating information and making a decision. I got my husband to do a Myers-Briggs the other day because I couldn't figure out what he'd be. Turns out he is ISFP. I went - oh, yes, it's the P aspect of your personality that drives me nuts! I'm currently waiting for him to organise what he is doing work wise after April so I can organise going back to work. He's all 'oh it'll work out, I might do this or that or maybe this'... I have a hard time not clocking him because I can't plan my life until he sorts his work contracts out. And y'know - childcare! My Hours! School pick up & drop off! Finances! So much to organise! NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO KEEP YOUR OPTIONS OPEN!!! mAKE A PLAN! YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE PLANS BUT NOTHING CAN HAPPEN UNTIL YOU HAVE A PLAN!<br /><br />Yes. I'm a bit stressed. That may have been my melt down right there. In general though, his easygoing nature tempers my excesses of organising but sometimes!Zenmoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29235839.post-45362948474408920682015-03-10T22:04:52.437-07:002015-03-10T22:04:52.437-07:00I remember having a complete money fit over a cool...I remember having a complete money fit over a cooler. I... really needed some perspective that day. 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